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NTC Thermistor Demo
AndrewPratt:
I am having a problem trying to get the Hackster thermistor demo working that is outlined here (https://www.hackster.io/mc-Things/iot-ntc-thermistor-temps-using-thethings-io-7f6934)
I ordered the same USP10972 thermistor and believe i have the wiring correct but the values I'm getting out fluctuate a lot and are never anywhere near valid. I also get a lot of not a number errors so there's obviously something wrong! The hackster description calls for a 100 ohm resistor but the one used in the image is a 10k...I've tried both but neither solves the issue.
Ultimately I want to get it working on the 120 and then port it to the 205 so that I can read water temp's outside under the ice.
Here's the code I'm using to push the data to Losant. I also have the onboard temp and battery being pushed as well but I've remove that from the code below to keep it on topic.
Class Thermistor
Const USP10972_BETA As Integer = 3892
Const USP10972_R25 As Integer = 10000 '10kOhm
Const USP10972_DIVIDER_R1 As Integer = 10000 '10kOhm
Shared USP10972 As NTCTermistor
Shared Event Boot()
USP10972_DIVIDER_ENABLE = False
USP10972 = New NTCTermistor(USP10972_BETA, USP10972_R25)
End Event
Shared Event measureTemperature() RaiseEvent Every 10 Seconds
Dim LosantTopic As String = "losant/deviceID/state"
Dim losantPayload As Json = New Json
USP10972_DIVIDER_ENABLE = True
Device.EnableOpamp()
Thread.Sleep(10000)
Dim thermistorResistance As Float = USP10972_DIVIDER_R1 * (1 / ((Device.BatteryVoltage().ToFloat/ USP10972_VOLTAGE.ToFloat) - 1))
USP10972_DIVIDER_ENABLE = False
Device.DisableOpamp()
Dim tempPstring As String = USP10972.TemperatureCFromResistance(thermistorResistance).ToString
Dim tempPJson As Json = New Json
tempPJson.Add("probeTemp", tempPstring)
losantPayload.Add("data", tempPJson)
Lplan.Publish(LosantTopic, losantPayload.ToListOfByte)
End Event
End Class
mc-Josh:
Andrew,
What are USP10972_VOLTAGE and USP10972_DIVIDER_ENABLE defined as? USP10972_DIVIDER_ENABLE is the pin that turns on the voltage to the voltage divider and USP10972_VOLTAGE is the voltage read from the divider. This voltage is then used to calculate the resistance of the thermistor which corresponds to a temperature. Can you show us how you have connected the 10k resistor and thermistor to the mod120?
Thanks,
Josh
AndrewPratt:
sorry I thought I'd included those. The wiring is the same as the demo only I had wire leads added to the mc120 so that we could prototype other things more easily.
Define PinMode Pin0 As AnalogInput Alias USP10972_VOLTAGE
Define PinMode Pin6 As DigitalOutput Alias USP10972_DIVIDER_ENABLE
mc-Josh:
Andrew,
It looks like you have the correct connections but that they may be intermittent since they are not soldered. Can you solder the connections to the thermistor and the resistor? Also, can you measure the voltage being provided to the resistor divider and the voltage at the sensor and ensure that the corresponding voltage is correct for the temperature? We have made quite a few of these and haven't had any issues.
Thanks,
Josh
AndrewPratt:
So when I measure the 0 and 6 pin's and measure the voltage as I dip the probe in hot and cold water it does change as you'd expect it would.
This is the tempprobe code that I added to the project...
Class NTCTermistor
Private beta As Integer
Private R25 As Integer
Public Sub New(betaIn As Integer, R25In As Integer)
'set Beta value
beta = betaIn
'Set R25 resistance value
R25 = R25In
End Sub
Public Function TemperatureFromResistance(resistance As Float) As Float
'returns temperature in Kelvin from resistance of thermistor using Beta parameter equation
Dim temp1 As Float = -1 * beta.ToFloat() / 298.15
Dim temp2 As Float = resistance / (R25.ToFloat() * temp1.Exp())
Return (beta / temp2.Log())
End Function
Public Function TemperatureFFromResistance(resistance As Float) As Float
'returns temperature in Fahrenheit from resistance of thermistor
Return (TemperatureFromResistance(resistance) * (9 / 5)) - 459.67
End Function
Public Function TemperatureCFromResistance(resistance As Float) As Float
'returns temperature in Celcuis from resistance of thermistor
Return TemperatureFromResistance(resistance) - 273.15
End Function
End Class
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